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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 12012 11:57 am    Post subject: Double Standards... Reply with quote


So, a white woman called a black lady she wasn't british because of her race, and got imprisoned.

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Then on an unrelated news, same country, 3 black women beat up a white woman while yelling "Kill the white slag" gets ALL of their charges DROPPED?

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Seirously???

I mean I understand multi-culturalism, and anti-racism, but come on! Defend your own people at least!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 12012 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


On racism, Morgan Freeman holds good quotes
too lazy to look them up on google though :S
or really busy
both probs
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 12012 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


more like anti-racism. . . . . . .

its like when some white students dressed up as like martin luther king jr by painting their face (or some other black guy for halloween), suddenly the completely not racist "black society on campus" (or w/e) is bitching about it to the world media


black people paint thier face white for w/e reason, it's just a costume
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 12012 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


What a laughable article.

If I felt that article represented the full facts of the case I would be appalled but it clearly doesn't.

I very much doubt that the judge accepted the defence's claim that they weren't used to drinking because they were Muslim at all.

More likely there was other provocation and / or previous altercations by both parties that lead up to the attack. It's all conjecture without seeing all the evidence but no judge in their right mind would be lenient just because it was members of a racial minority attacking members of a racial majority, nor would religion factor into it at all.

Consequently there are probably many many differences between that assault and the unprovoked racially motivated train onslaught.

I can't say for sure since the Daily Mail couldn't report facts to save its life but I'm so confident that this will be the case that I'm not even going to bother checking reputable sources.

(Feel free to do it for me and prove me wrong.)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 12012 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Spanner_ wrote:
What a laughable article.

If I felt that article represented the full facts of the case I would be appalled but it clearly doesn't.

I very much doubt that the judge accepted the defence's claim that they weren't used to drinking because they were Muslim at all.

More likely there was other provocation and / or previous altercations by both parties that lead up to the attack. It's all conjecture without seeing all the evidence but no judge in their right mind would be lenient just because it was members of a racial minority attacking members of a racial majority, nor would religion factor into it at all.

Consequently there are probably many many differences between that assault and the unprovoked racially motivated train onslaught.

I can't say for sure since the Daily Mail couldn't report facts to save its life but I'm so confident that this will be the case that I'm not even going to bother checking reputable sources.

(Feel free to do it for me and prove me wrong.)


I've seen far too many ridiculous cases to doubt this one just on the basis of how ridiculous it is.

If you don't trust Daily Mail, here's some others, all saying the same thing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8937856/Muslim-women-not-used-to-drinking-walk-free-after-attack-on-woman.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/12/07/female-gang-who-attacked-woman-spared-jail_n_1133734.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3990071/I-darent-go-out-since-race-attack.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 12012 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1857129

Pretty much sums it up for me.

I think they should have been given real time but then I don't rate alcohol as an excuse for anyone, whereas the justice system apparently does.

The telegraph article has 1 paragraph that may explain why racially aggravated assault wasn't pursued.

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Nur, who joined in the attack after initially acting as a peacemaker, said it was in fact the victim's partner who had been racially abusive, but Mr Bide-Thomas said that was not accepted by the prosecution.


I suspect insults will have ended up being thrown each way with no witness to collaborate anything with any reliability. Subsequently, motivation can't be properly judged as racial. The attack, on the other hand, and drunkeness are all evidential.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 12012 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Spanner_ wrote:
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1857129

Pretty much sums it up for me.

I think they should have been given real time but then I don't rate alcohol as an excuse for anyone, whereas the justice system apparently does.

The telegraph article has 1 paragraph that may explain why racially aggravated assault wasn't pursued.

Quote:
Nur, who joined in the attack after initially acting as a peacemaker, said it was in fact the victim's partner who had been racially abusive, but Mr Bide-Thomas said that was not accepted by the prosecution.


I suspect insults will have ended up being thrown each way with no witness to collaborate anything with any reliability. Subsequently, motivation can't be properly judged as racial. The attack, on the other hand, and drunkeness are all evidential.


Are Victims not allowed to be a witness to the crime?

As for the quote, you kind of lost all of your credibility when you are beating the living sh*t out of the victim.
Also, even if her boyfriend did say it, it in no way justify their actions.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 12012 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


imo, insults warrant a punch or kick, not a beat-down


as for them being drunk, i'd say put them into a shariah court Wink
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