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Hmn yeah... gives a nice new wind to the game.
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Damn you blizz... You're screwing up the game!
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I might even start playing for this...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 12009 10:36 am    Post subject: New expansion? Reply with quote


WoW: Fucked in the A-?

A lot of rumors flying recently about the new World of Warcraft expansion. MMO Champion says they've got the details for sure. I suppose we'll find out this week at Blizzcon.

When the rumors first started leaking out, I felt pretty "meh" on the subject. A couple new races, and letting old races be new classes? Neat, I guess, but you're still playing the same game that we've been playing for the past five years. Not exactly high caliber stuff for a third expansion.

But then they started talking about the Cataclysm stuff. SPOILERS AHEAD. AVERT YOUR EYES IF YOU'RE AVOIDING WOW EXPANSION SPOILERS. Now, this could all be bullshit, we won't know for certain until we hear it from Blizzard themselves, but the rumor is that a huge cataclysmic event is going to seriously fuck up Azeroth's shit. Orgrimmar split in half, Thousand Needles flooded, death damage and destruction everywhere you turn. Nothing is the same, Azeroth is trying to rebuild. Zones, quests and instances revamped. Able to use your flying mounts in old zones, etc.

Now if that's true... if they're really doing this, and doing it well (not some "alternate reality zone, caverns of time horseshit) then I am impressed. And psyched. This is precisely the kind of thing WoW needs to make it feel fresh again. Let's face it, after five years, the game is showing its age. And quite frankly, it's made improvements in leaps and bounds over those five years, and the original zones got left in the dust. Bringing all of that stuff up to par with the newer stuff is a smart move.

I'm entirely sure that there are a bunch of hardcore raiders out there bawling themselves to sleep at the thought that Blizzard might not be focusing entirely on them for this expansion, but in my opinion, the game needs this. Especially if it wants to stand it's ground against The Old Republic and all the hawtness that game is offering. Personally, I think it will be plenty neat to walk through an old zone and think 'Wow, I remember what this place was like before Armageddon fucked it in the ass'.

Last week I probably couldn't have cared less, but this week I'm excited to see what news comes out of Blizzcon.




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Opinions on this?
I personally really like the idea... It was really getting boring after a while... Hell i haven't even played for 2 months!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 12009 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


More info from MMO-Champion



World of Warcraft: Cataclysm

World of Warcraft: Cataclysm is the next expansion for World of Warcraft. Dark and forgotten threats that have long stayed out of sight have finally arrived on our shores, unleashing a cataclysmic event upon Azeroth and now preparing more nefarius plans to take it back.

Level Cap
The level cap in the next expansion will be slightly lower than expected this time around; 85.

This suggests Blizzard wants more room for expansions before hitting the level 100 cap. With less leveling to do (along with the revamped leveling listed below likely to increase the speed and ease of leveling), leveling a new race remains appealing for new and existing players alike.

Leveling from 80-85 should be a much bigger deal, the idea is to make sure that gaining a level really means something and doesn't make you feel like you just have 4 more levels to go.

New Classes
Cataclysm doesn't introduce any new classes to the game. Instead, Blizzard have offered more race and classes combinations to players. The Some of these have alreadly been datamined from the 3.2.2 Test Realms. The An Injured Colleague quest and it's new Night Elf counter-part help to introduce the lore for these new race and class combinations, so we can probably expect to see more of these for some of the less traditional ones.

* Human Hunter
* Orc Mage
* Night Elf Mage
* Dwarf Mage
* Blood Elf Warrior
* Dwarf Shaman
* Undead Hunter
* Tauren Paladin
* Tauren Priest
* Gnome Priest
* Troll Druid



New Races
The events of the cataclysm has caused two new races to seek new allies. The Goblins for the Horde and the Worgen for the Alliance.

Goblins
Deathwing once again sought the services of the goblins, as slaves. Unable to refuse such an offer, the goblins were enslaved by him. A large group have resisted however. With their previous homes devastated by the cataclysm, they escaping to an island off the coast of The Barrens. As they strive to recover, they come across an Orc captured on an Alliance ship and rescue him. The Orc turns out to be none other than Thrall himself, and in return offers the Goblins a place within the Horde. These events are carried out in a quest line, allowing players to experience first-hand the reasons behind the Goblins' shift from neutrality.

Worgen
The cataclysm has cracked open the Greymane Wall, finally revealing what has happened to the kingdom of Gilneas and its citizens. With the Worgen curse taken hold, they have found a partial cure, allowing thme to retain their Human minds even when transformed. Venturing forth from Gilneas and seeking help from the Alliance, they have decided to join them, to combat the new threats of Cataclysm.

Gilneas will make extensive use of the phasing system (much like the Death Knight starting area), to show what happened while the kingdom was cut off from the rest of the world and lead up to present day.

Worgens will have two forms, a Worgen form and a Human form. Players will be able to customise the look of both forms.

New Content
Cataclysm will be the first expansion not to introduce a new continent, instead making use of previously unreleased zones and revamping existing ones.

Classic Azeroth Revamp
A cataclysmic event caused by Deathwing and Azshara will change the face of Azeroth as we know it. Most of the new content for Cataclysm will take the form of a revamped Azeroth, taking advantage of newer additions to WoW such as phasing and daily quests. Most of the quests and mobs in the classic zones will also be redesigned to make leveling less painful. With the revamp, a greater narritive and sense progression will be offered to players. Some zones and dungeons will change drastically to fit this, e.g.,

* The Barrens will be split into two separate zones of two different level bands.
* Azshara will become a low level (~10-20) zone.
* Some of the zones like the Thousand Needles will be flooded.
* Durotar is wrecked and apparently Orgrimmar could be destroyed. A new Orc city is rebuilt over the course of the expansion.
* Gnomeregan will be part of the expansion as well and gnomes might be able to reclaim their capital. (The last part is still unconfirmed)
* Wailing Caverns will be become a lush tropical area as a result of the druid's magic.
* The Blackrock Spire will erupt and a new version of Blackrock Mountains will be available, apparently Ragnaros will be back too.


In the aftermath of the cataclysm, and the new conflicts on the horizon relief efforts can be found in many zones and new open PvP areas similar to Lake Wintergrasp.

Flying in Azeroth
Part of the redesign of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor is the introduction of flying to the two continents, allowing access to many new areas and quicker travelling across the large continents.

Classic Dungeon Revamp
Redesigning Onyxia's Lair in Patch 3.2.2 was just the first step. As most of the leveling will take place in revamped areas of Azeroth, so too will the dungeons, allowing players to use them to level from 80 to 85.

Unreleased Zones & Dungeons
With the addition of flying mounts to Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms and the redesign of many zones, most of the previously unreachable or incomplete zones will now be made available to players. This is where most of the new content from 80 to 85 will take place. Some of these are,

* Hyjal (present)
* Gilneas - The Worgen starting Zone.
* Uldum


It is unclear if the old Goblin locations such as Kezan and Undermine will be included in Cataclyms with the revelation of the goblins' plight, but several new islands have also been risen from the seas by the events of Cataclysm, some on the backs of giant sea turtles and whales, with the addition of several underwater zones.

Characters and Events

Deathwing
Deathwing the Destroyer / Neltharion the Earth-Warder will play a major role in Cataclysm. Having been driven mad by Old God whisperings and turning against his own kind only to be fail in his attempts, Deathwing has sunk into the shadows. While the Horde and the Alliance were busy fighting back the Burning Legion only to then be beset with the Scourge, he has been lurking and moving things into place. After Lady Sinestra's failed attempts to create a Twilight Dragonflight, he again retreated to Grim Batol and succeeded where she failed. With his results seen in the Obsidian Sanctum, he has finally created the supreme Dragonflight he sought and plans to unleash it upon the world. But what of the Old Gods' sway over him?

Azshara
Queen Azshara will also play a major part in Cataclysm. Unknown to many mortal races, long forgotten by others, and believe to be dead by her own kind, she has not been dormant in depths of the Maelstrom. Having those around her transformed by the Old Gods into Naga after her failure in the War of the Ancients, she has become far more powerful and a greater threat than she once was. Not content with just Nazjatar and the depths of the sea, Azshara seeks to reclaim power and reign once again. With the true plan behind Lady Vashj's support of Illidan remaining a mystery we do not know what hand Azshara has yet played. The big question remains, is she now serving her "saviors", the Old Gods?

The Cataclysm
I'm still not sure who is the true end boss of Cataclysm is, but the cataclysm appears to have been caused by attempts to incantation to summon extremely powerful beings using an ancient incantation by Deathwing and Azshara. They're both very powerful, but the cataclysm itself suggests something more powerful is behind it, perhaps their shared past of Old God influence?

The Guardian of Tirisfal
Malfurion Stormrage will be returning to Azeroth to aid in the creation of the new Guardian of Tirisfal - Thrall! Med'an's role in these events is currently unknown.

The New (New) Horde
Thrall will hand over the leadership of the Horde to Garrosh Hellscream, while he serves as a coordinator for both the Horde and Alliance forces in and effort to combat the new threat of the Naga and Black Dragonflight. Without Thrall to keep Garrosh in check, he declares open war on the Alliance. In the political upheaval Cairne Bloodhoof is implicated as a traitor to the Horde and murdered by Garrosh. Cairne's son Baine takes over as the new Tauren chieftan. This could explain why Baine was removed from the game in Patch 3.2.2, you can find more information about this in Ahmo Thunderhorn - replacement for Baine Bloodhoof?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 12009 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


Ron, U sure know how to doublepost.
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WaW map pack 3 > WoW extension (thought u guys were done with this game...but I now understand your fashion standards)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 12009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Seriously Tru, with that single post you made me doubt if I am possibly looking at one of the most pathetic living beings on the planet. Get a fucking life and stop calling other people 'kids' when you're acting like someone far worse.
And don't you dare going 'Olol I tr00l uuuu' on me just to bullshit your way out of this. But knowing you you probably won't even reply or post some random lolcat picture since that's the only way for you to convey your thoughts.
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Anyway, about the expension. I don't know if I'm gonna buy it. I haven't played WoW decently for about 4-5 months and aren't planning to do so in the near future.

I'm not pleased about the extra classes for races. Everything that made choosing a race made special is slowly disappearing this way.
I don't know about the rest. Wolves for the Alliance...let's see how that turns out. And goblins sound fun, although I really hope we'll get a redesign and not a copy/paste off the NPC model.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 12009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Tru_Davis wrote:
Ron, U sure know how to doublepost.
OP = phail
WaW map pack 3 > WoW extension (thought u guys were done with this game...but I now understand your fashion standards)

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Mind your language will u thisis your 1st warning!

http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn396/tru_davis_queen/1281397222.jpg[/url]


How can you possibly compare an FPS with an MMO?
That's like saying, "I like that lamp better than that wall over there"
I recall you using language like that too, and rude gestures... and calling people "phail"...but i'm not going to start that.
Besides, it was copy and pasted from CAD, so go complain at tim buckley if you're offended by his language.
tim@cad-comic.com That's his e-mail if you really want to go that far
So by this I see your warning as misplaced.

If you're not interested please stay out of it, okay?

And the double post was to devide the copy-pasta from the two sites i got the information.

If anyone else if annoyed by the fact that i did this, I apologise.




And soup, they're all rumours, The worgen and goblin are probably suspected because hallow's ent event had goblin and worgen masks
I do like the whole Cataclysm idea though... Everything new, everything revamped... Though i won't start a worgen untill like a week or 2 after the expansion... I don't wanna CAMP CAMP AND CAMP quest mobs till they finally spawn.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 12009 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


I haven't been into WoW for a while, but I currently have game time..
First when I saw this I was like; Oh no not again... But after I read this I actually became interested (I'm more into Warcraft lore than the game) especially on the Gilneas case, I've been wondering about Gilneas's wall in the silverspine forest.. and wondered about the story revolving around it. And finally my patience will be rewarded Razz
... Well IF the rumors are true.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 12009 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Cant we all just be friends?!?!?!?!??! Where are the <3s in this matter!?!???!?!?!? you guys make me a very sad panda, who cares who plays which games? LETS ALL HAVE <3s!!!1!11!!!!!!!1111!!1!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 12009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


We are friends, just not very good ones Cool

And i do hope parts of these rumours are true...
I'd love to fly around in azeroth too!

But one thing is bothering me
Worgens.....what will they have as mounts? Orcs? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 12009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Tru_Davis wrote:
Ron, U sure know how to doublepost.

OP = phail

====>> Fish-hook

Ron_Phailps wrote:
How can you possibly compare an FPS with an MMO?That's like saying, "I like that lamp better than that wall over there"


I guess you got a point there.

[quote="Ron"]I recall you using language like that too, and rude gestures... and calling people "phail"...but i'm not going to start that.
Besides, it was copy and pasted from CAD, so go complain at tim buckley if you're offended by his language.
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I thought it came from your mouth, Ive never used those terms...here.

[quote="Ron_Phailps"]If you're not interested please stay out of it, okay?
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Don't know, Don't care, Why did i even klick this topic? ::>> U invited me first remember?


[quote="Soepstengel"]Seriously Tru, with that single post you made me doubt if I am possibly looking at one of the most pathetic living beings on the planet. Get a fucking life and stop calling other people 'kids' when you're acting like someone far worse.
And don't you dare going 'Olol I tr00l uuuu' on me just to bullshit your way out of this. But knowing you you probably won't even reply or post some random lolcat picture since that's the only way for you to convey your thoughts.

Soep, did I tell you once how much I love the way you analyse me? But you misunderstood me I didnt say kids (here). Youjust mademedo it.


[quote="Ron_Phailps"]If anyone else if annoyed by the fact that i did this, I apologise.

? Im not annoyed at all?

Roning wrote:
We are friends, just not very good ones Cool

Ultima1221 wrote:
Cant we all just be friends?!?!?!?!??! Where are the <3s in this matter!?!???!?!?!? you guys make me a very sad panda, who cares who plays which games? LETS ALL HAVE <3s!!!1!11!!!!!!!1111!!1!!!!!!!

Lies, not friends, we are like brother & sister, somethin you havent chosen in your life.
& right here Ulti, I am <3.
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Tru_Davis wrote:

Lies, not friends, we are like brother & sister, somethin you havent chosen in your life.
& right here Ulti, I am <3.
Razz

Rofl,
<3 it is then xD
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I do not play WoW (which is what this thread is about, please for the love of pete, stay on topic!!!), but this does sound entertaining. It can really be hard to think of the destruction of a world in the terms of zones. I always am fascinated beyond belief on how the programers pull this kind of stuff off, thus it almost makes me curious enough to buy in...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 12009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Well, im a recovering WoW addict, for abotu a year, it was fun, but, i now just think of the money and time i wasted...lol, no offens to the people who play it
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 12009 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


Lol I went out and bought all the expansions and so far put my account on hold until further notice......Hell I'm not even level 80 yet or have I done much on the new island. Although this new expansion does sound kinda cool.
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Quite ironic that i'm beign called a fail if you look at the messup of all that quotes... ah well i'm not going further in on it anymore.. i know better than this (Inb4 good choise because i'm better anyway and i'll win)


Well, it seems the majority of the people like the idea of the new expansion.. Already thought it would be like this, though my cousin totally didn't like the idea of the "Made-up lore" like he called it
heh.. Newsflash! Fantasy game lore is always made up
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so what hes saying is that he doesn't like games based of fiction? thats a bit limmiting is it not?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 12009 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


Sendal wrote:
so what hes saying is that he doesn't like games based of fiction? thats a bit limmiting is it not?

.....Did I miss something?
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Sendal wrote:
so what hes saying is that he doesn't like games based of fiction? thats a bit limmiting is it not?

I have no idea what he meant, but i guess he doesn't like the idea of everything changing...
Oh well i like it, All zones revamped and stuff.. would be nice imo
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 12009 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


To return the topic regarding worgen's mounts, I think (if they're gonna be a race) they're gonna have normal horses as mounts, but they can't mount while in the wolf-form... and I also think the worgen will have the wolf form as some racial ability that increases AP/castspeed/attackspeed i.e. or something
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 12009 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


Just how many expansions are there gonna be?

I got bored after TBC and now its like 3rd one after that coming or wut? Neutral
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 12009 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


this is the 3rd one, fullstop


And i don't think worgen will be like werewolfs... ulqoirra...
IF they even have mounts... I mean.. they're wolves, and wolves can run fast, so they probably get an ability that makes up for mounts?
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